@StefanoNava5 @CatGoodin Gattinoni et al : once DPes > 15 then need NIV/ Mechanical ventilation rather than just CPAP. https://t.co/vZJMkkjKYj. However you mouth & oesophageal pressure to calculate TPP which may not be easy in Clinical practice.
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Am loving this battle - low blows and all - but as a clinician and physiology addict, I’m seeing value on both sides. The challenge will be teasing it out at the bedside to make the right call for each patient and avoiding partisanship bias given these pol
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Clash of the titans!
RT @bhyzy: Like voting in Chicago - intubate early, intubate often. Sorry, just not buying the edema is all due to DP > 15 before intubati…
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Like voting in Chicago - intubate early, intubate often. Sorry, just not buying the edema is all due to DP > 15 before intubation. Sure they got clot, but P-SILI alone, it’s not.
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Yowza, this whole correspondence over the past weeks is like a gloves off Twitter fight unfolding in super slow motion. 🍿😯😶 https://t.co/K52WsTmWZj
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Respuesta de Gattinoni a la publicación de Tobin et al. Conceptos e hipótesis como P-SILI en ventilación espontánea sin presencia de presión positiva y altas presiones transpulmonares se discuten a continuación 👇🏻 https://t.co/pLbfgNYFwC 👇🏻 https://t.co/hX
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Gatinoni y Marino contra el mundo
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Can the muscles (in spontaneous breathing -without additional positive pressure-) generate high transpulmonary pressure-? Did P-SILI exist in that situation? What do you think @gattinon? 👉Discussion always increases knowledge
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Una vez más, el master Gattinoni poniendo la pausa a seguir
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L. Gattinoni vs Tobin. "Employing mathematical thresholds to guide treatment is not unknown to the inventor of the rapid shallow breathing index and the advocate of a numerical plateau pressure threshold for VILI"