@lakster37 This was the one I was referring to. https://t.co/VvaKaAeNJS https://t.co/TfTPQ6Swij
Two research articles, one from 2017 and one from 2018, on the SARS Coronavirus. Author affiliations include the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Unbelievable that lab origins of the virus were dismissed as 'conspiracy theories'. https://t.co/wXaFxhYKtt https:
@XinWei57337546 @PrometheusCHT @mattyglesias @R_H_Ebright Ironically, Wuhan was seen as a particularly unlikely place for infection by bats due to its urban location. It was even used as a control for serological studies on the prevalence of bat-SARS relat
RT @Biorealism: @mattwridley Wuhan was seen as a particularly unlikely place for infection by bats. It was even used as a control for serol…
@backtolife_2022 Wuhan was seen as a particularly unlikely place for infection by bats. It was even used as a control for serological studies on the prevalence of bat-SARS related coronaviruses prior to the outbreak. https://t.co/VvaKaAeNJS https://t.co/Ir
@mattwridley Wuhan was seen as a particularly unlikely place for infection by bats. It was even used as a control for serological studies on the prevalence of bat-SARS related coronaviruses prior to the outbreak! https://t.co/VvaKaAeNJS https://t.co/5A2zqE
@Marilaren @Etoile89971475 Sí, aquí lo tienes. La imagen es del material suplementario. https://t.co/ylL4GgJRpF
@ydeigin @mattwridley Wuhan was seen as a particularly unlikely place for infection by bat SARSr-CoVs. It was even used as a control for serological studies on the prevalence of bat-SARS related coronaviruses. https://t.co/VvaKaAeNJS https://t.co/YfOmOkbEe
RT @Biorealism: @Ayjchan @BiophysicsFL Another $500 billion and they might have picked it up ;-) Of course, Wuhan was seen as a particularl…
RT @Biorealism: @Ayjchan @BiophysicsFL Another $500 billion and they might have picked it up ;-) Of course, Wuhan was seen as a particularl…
@Ayjchan @BiophysicsFL Another $500 billion and they might have picked it up ;-) Of course, Wuhan was seen as a particularly unlikely place for infection by bat SARSr-CoVs. It was even used as a control for serological studies on the prevalence of bat-SARS
@breakfast_dogs @sciencecohen @john_jxw @blJOg @SpyrosLytras yes absolutely amazing nature/evolution is an incredible thing. With these types of events we are seeing the successful outcomes, ie massive survivor bias, there's many many more SARS-related cor
@VBruttel @MarionKoopmans Wuhan was also particularly unlikely location given the nearest bats were at least 900 kilometers away and the city had previously been used as a negative control for serological studies on the prevalence of bat-SARS related coron
@WaltFrench @bgurley @stevesi @KatherineEban @SangerNYT The nearest bats were at least 900 kilometers away and Wuhan had previously been used as a negative control for serological studies on the prevalence of bat-SARS related coronaviruses because of this
@SebViret @_b_meyer @arambaut Also, fires in London weren't uncommon. In contrast, Wuhan was used as a negative control for a study of serological evidence of bat SARS-related coronavirus infection in humans in China. https://t.co/VvaKaAeNJS https://t.co/Y
It found that six people, or nearly 3 percent, carried antibodies against SARS-like coronaviruses from bats—even though none of them had handled wildlife or reported SARS-like or other pneumonialike symptoms. 3/2/18 Published https://t.co/mrjUNSJ6B9 http
. . . on the outskirts of Kunming, the capital of Yunnan, where they conducted intense sampling during different seasons over five consecutive years. 3/2/18 Published https://t.co/mrjUNSJ6B9 https://t.co/Gcm6krFx1E
@mikeydoubled @MarionKoopmans @ECCMID @MichaelWorobey he was there because that's where the labs are. those photos were taken by Ed Holmes. photos A-C were not taken by Holmes. Wuhan is *not* a spillover zone. it was used as a negative control in a SARS
@justme_hoping @mattwridley Serological Evidence of Bat SARS-Related Coronavirus Infection in Humans, China Ning Wang, Li, Yang,Huang,Zhang, Guo, Chu-Ming Luo, Maureen Miller, Zhu, Aleksei A. Chmura, Emily Hagan, Ji-Hua Zhou, Yun-Zhi Zhang, Wang, Pe
@ChuckPaulen @stuartjdneil @franciscodeasis I guess they know it from serological tests that the population there did not get in contact with this group of viruses. Wuhan was for example taken as negative control for this study. https://t.co/6Qf57xumel
RT @robertson_lab: @tony_vandongen @Rossana38510044 @Ayjchan Thanks, we certainly do need to be concerned with direct bat to human transmis…
@tony_vandongen @Rossana38510044 @Ayjchan Thanks, we certainly do need to be concerned with direct bat to human transmission, https://t.co/3gguJp5c2Z, but live animal markets seem the key link for introducing these viruses into cities where sustained trans
@Ayjchan Moreover: https://t.co/3M3CKZ3dEd
@tony_vandongen Wouldn't we observe SARS antibodies in people in the Hubei province before the pandemic in this scenario? https://t.co/LvjJKDLVOy
@MarcBrup Wenn die stellvertretende Leiterin des Wuhan Institute of Virology 2018 die Bevölkerung Wuhans als Kontrollgruppe nimmt, weil sie dort keinerlei Kontakt mit SARS-artigen Viren vermutete, ... https://t.co/sUlL3qaHQz
@Corp_Raider99 @Biorealism @past_is_future @PhilippMarkolin @JDubbs1982 Here's a paper from 2018 showing around 3% of humans living in proximity to bat caves in Yunnan have shown seropositivity for bat SARSr-CoVs, meaning spillovers of less virulent viruse
@Cryssylol @zapnut And there's lots of bat coronaviruses occasionally infecting humans, but they're still referred to as bat coronaviruses, and not as human coronaviruses: https://t.co/P2rw12bMbh
@randysmith1962 Look into a Chinese scientist named - Shi Zhengli, aka “Bat Woman” She worked at, yes, the Wuhan Institute of Virology. She’s the last author on this study, which was funded by NAIAD & NIH. Yes, Anthony Fauci approved this research.
@Camilo2010 @pavel23 Interessant: "As a control, we also collected 240 serum samples from random blood donors in 2015 in Wuhan, Hubei Province more than 1000 km away from Jinning and where inhabitants have a much lower likelihood of contact with bats due t
@msabouri @BallouxFrancois @stuartjdneil @MichaelWorobey @ScienceMagazine Only a limited number of people in Hubei are involved in the wild life trade so no its not a good case for people living near Hubei having strong X-reactive immunity to SARS-Cov2. h
@spwells A similar study in 2015 in yunan "Serological Evidence of Bat SARS-Related Coronavirus Infection in Humans, China" https://t.co/DS3tSB1mT5
@oatila Estava lendo um artigo do final de 2018 que mostra que morcegos pelo mundo carregam algumas formas de SARS semelhantes ao SARS-1 e os pesquisadores pedem para que se fique de vigilância https://t.co/wNFkwrqcLJ
@Ayjchan @MikeS123456 I agree that is way too wide of a confidence interval to mean anything. Was this study better? They found 6 positive samples out of 218 people in rural Yunnan. It's still a very small sample size, so we need more testing to see how co
RT @Illegalemigran1: @maggiekb1 the bats don't live in Wuhan. Wuhan, in fact, served as a negative control for a seroprevalence study carri…
RT @AntGDuarte: @maggiekb1 Seriously uninformed tweet. There's no history of zoonotic disease crossover in Wuhan at all. Wuhan population…
@MJnanostretch @Rossana38510044 @mattwridley This one https://t.co/Hat5Y4kxFX Even more important than that study, though, is that there are no studies that show pre-pandemic antibodies.
RT @Illegalemigran1: @maggiekb1 the bats don't live in Wuhan. Wuhan, in fact, served as a negative control for a seroprevalence study carri…
RT @AntGDuarte: @maggiekb1 Seriously uninformed tweet. There's no history of zoonotic disease crossover in Wuhan at all. Wuhan population…
RT @Rossana38510044: @MJnanostretch https://t.co/jldF51V021 I am not aware of studies that show circulation of SARS2 pre-pandemic.
@MJnanostretch https://t.co/jldF51V021 I am not aware of studies that show circulation of SARS2 pre-pandemic.
@nbcbayarea It definitely spread from animal to person. They just can’t rule out where it happened and to whom it happened. Spillover is ubiquitous, we just can’t pinpoint this particular event. https://t.co/5Eskr9KffT
@kderosa @mangosandanimu @echo_chamberz Serological tests are cross-reactive to SARS viruses; and since they detect the exact antibodies that confer immunity, any prior immunity they don't detect also wouldn't work. https://t.co/LDFMoxsUFS
RT @Ayjchan: Of the 6 individuals who tested positive, all had bats flying in their villages. Only 1 had traveled out of Yunnan in the past…
@jonathan_reiss If you had bothered to click through and read the links, you would learn it was 6 people out of 218 in the four villages "in close proximity to caves where bats that carry diverse SARSr-CoVs." https://t.co/TAT7oVdDI4 https://t.co/5tcBZVpBd
@wanderer_jasnah Well I think they specialize in organizing funding and support for scientific research, and advocating for the idea that zoonoses are about way more than the virus. Cuz public policy matters. https://t.co/sSkNauO1hm https://t.co/mheaMaDo4M
@_everythingism @harishseshadri2 @nicolascgrey @MJnanostretch @stuartjdneil @SebViret @AngloScot2 @Stephengm99 Some of this risk posed by SARS-related bat viruses has been quantified eg -- "2.7% seropositivity for the high risk group of residents living in
China https://t.co/UVnYZAeYPN
@franciscodeasis @babarlelephant @Drinkwater5Reed @realsaucyboy @TheSeeker268 Just to add some documentation: https://t.co/nCiT9FV9y3 (map) https://t.co/mMvbf4c9Ud https://t.co/Y9QftIXwkE https://t.co/DlmiVqcgzD
This seems like a relevant time to remind everyone that there's serological evidence of bat-to-human coronavirus spillover around Yunnan province caves (*not* Mojiang mine) from as early as 2015. https://t.co/9f3lBVwOz6
@kakape @PeterDaszak @nycbat We’re talking about two studies here, which you forgot to mention both have P. Daszak as a co-author. In the first study, six seropositive people are found in a sample of 218, and in the second it’s nine out of 1500. https:/
RT @tommy_cleary: @R_H_Ebright @PeterDaszak includes https://t.co/CASDRu44Jy
RT @Ayjchan: @wanderer_jasnah And 2018, also WIV/EcoHealth: "2.7% seropositivity for the high risk group of residents living in close proxi…
@R_H_Ebright @TheSeeker268 Importantly, in both studies, none of the seropositive subjects cite relevant respiratory symptoms in the 12 months preceding the sampling. In the "3%" (6/218 = 2.7%) study, authors conclude that this a sign of subclinical infec
RT @Daoyu15: @EcoHealthNYC @hongying_li @klphelps @nycbat @cmzambranat @PeterDaszak @dukenus @medrxivpreprint That the SARSr-CoV positivity…
@gdemaneuf @EcoHealthNYC @hongying_li @klphelps @nycbat @cmzambranat @PeterDaszak @dukenus @medrxivpreprint WIV Shi @PeterDaszak & @EcoHealthNYC have shown that locals to caves etc have robust immunity to their local zoonotic biome. https://t.co/HOIqv0
RT @Ayjchan: @wanderer_jasnah And 2018, also WIV/EcoHealth: "2.7% seropositivity for the high risk group of residents living in close proxi…
@wanderer_jasnah And 2018, also WIV/EcoHealth: "2.7% seropositivity for the high risk group of residents living in close proximity to bat colonies suggests that spillover is a relatively rare event, however this depends on how long antibodies persist in pe
@wanderer_jasnah I haven’t listened to the interview, but this number sounds like it is extrapolated from this paper and projected on the farming population https://t.co/AZGMkimTFb. Not sure why he said per year though.
RT @tommy_cleary: @AnagalisArvensi @mrandersoninneo @MonaRahalkar @Ayjchan @pathogenetics "Subsequent serological surveys found ∼3% positiv…
@AnagalisArvensi @mrandersoninneo @MonaRahalkar @Ayjchan @pathogenetics "Subsequent serological surveys found ∼3% positivity rates to SARS-related coronaviruses (SARSr-CoV) in residents of Yunnan province living close to bat caves" https://t.co/wbVY04TwFP
@Francis_Aln @sciencecohen The laboratory that did the testing, which was actively seeking and publishing positive serology results in cases of potential exposure, did not confirm them. If confirmed, the results would've made for a paper in a high tier jou
That's the exact point Linfa Wang made to me.
@zhihuachen @sciencecohen As mentioned before, I don't understand why people think positive serology results would've been hidden when that's exactly the type of result they were looking to find and publish about @MonaRahalkar https://t.co/1BPEsjl5l8
@MonaRahalkar @sciencecohen Why wouldn't positive serology results have been published given that this was a major area of interest, which they published on? (Lin-Fa Wang is an author on this paper from 2018) https://t.co/1BPEsjl5l8
@Ayjchan @sciencecohen What motivation would there have been to hide positive antibody results at the time? They were publishing papers on this topic. https://t.co/1BPEsjl5l8
Someone in SE Asia had an unfortunate and unintentional interaction with a bat. It was one of 7.674 billion people and one of several billion bats (but probably a bat in the genera Rhinolophus). Exposure to SARS-type bat coronaviruses is not uncommon. ht
@Joannaknows @kaitainjones @mick51569143 "As a control, we also collected 240 serum samples from random blood donors in 2015 in Wuhan, Hubei province" https://t.co/H4wJkGELqO
@stuartjdneil Is there any explanation for why evidence of CoV infection in these individuals wouldn't have been published at the time, if reasonable evidence existed? Seems like this was exactly the sort of thing they were looking for and published about.
@charlie_cherpor @RozasL1 Aquí tiene evidencias de que los coronavirus pueden saltar directamente a humanos desde murciélagos. Lo que usted crea es irrelevante aquí 👇 https://t.co/NMcfYrPpy4
@babarlelephant @ChuckPaulen @franciscodeasis @TheSeeker268 @Engineer2The @sanqia @Daoyu15 @AntGDuarte @Ayjchan Great geotag. I've never worked out the view over rooftops. Sero study map overlays precisely on roads/villages and Shitou is just across the da
@WilliamYang120 That seems a sweeping statement. 3% of rural residents of Yunan province had SARS related antibodies in 2015. Lots of rural people interact in some way with bats. And lots of people come and go from Wuhan. https://t.co/5Eskr9KffT
@Engineer2The @Ayjchan @neva9257 @dsky As @InWuchang points out here https://t.co/xQNbG7Wrv6
RT @InWuchang: @Ayjchan @neva9257 @dsky Good point. As Alina has also pointed out, Zheng-Li Shi and Peter Daszak used Wuhan as a control…
RT @InWuchang: @Ayjchan @neva9257 @dsky Good point. As Alina has also pointed out, Zheng-Li Shi and Peter Daszak used Wuhan as a control…
RT @InWuchang: @Ayjchan @neva9257 @dsky Good point. As Alina has also pointed out, Zheng-Li Shi and Peter Daszak used Wuhan as a control…
RT @InWuchang: @Ayjchan @neva9257 @dsky Good point. As Alina has also pointed out, Zheng-Li Shi and Peter Daszak used Wuhan as a control…
@Ayjchan @neva9257 @dsky Good point. As Alina has also pointed out, Zheng-Li Shi and Peter Daszak used Wuhan as a control group in a study because "inhabitants have a much lower likelihood of contact with bats due to its urban setting". https://t.co/t69S
RT @suzuki_takaya: 一連の研究者はコウモリリザーブのある洞窟群を調べていたのだが、じつはそこに住む住人の抗体検査も行っている。2018年に発表されたこのLetterではこのJinning地区に住む218人の血清サンプルをELISAで調べたらなんと6人から"SA…
Serological Evidence of Bat SARS-Related Coronavirus Infection in Humans, China | SpringerLink https://t.co/WlwcJFWyPC
RT @revoltes: En 2018, des spécialistes de #Wuhan cosignent "Preuves sérologiques de l'infection d'humains par des #coronavirus de chauve-…